1、(author: Cao Xiaoling approved quantity: 4608 release time: 2020-03-10 16:47:46 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1069279820)
Coordinates Holland, thuther shivering the company’s annual Italian skiing ended yesterday. A large number of colleagues from Italy came to work happily. No one wore a mask. I said you could hardly come back. The legal affairs of our company looked at me with a blank face after the Italian border was sealed. How could you touch your mobile phone and show it to me? You can still buy air tickets now Back to Italy, I can also buy train tickets. Hr of the company looks at me in a daze. How can it be possible? Some of our colleagues drive to ski, and now they are driving across the border blowing songs. Then I gave them a scientific introduction about what is “Fengcheng” and they say it’s not “Fengcheng”, it’s “turning a city into a prison”. I said that’s the point, so that’s the way According to the Dutchman, there’s no reason. Why? Why? Who said it I said that this thing is going to kill people. The Netherlands has more than 300 confirmations. Several of them have died. The Dutch said that if it’s OK, just wash your hands more and show me this picture Just keep a meter away So why are you so close when we talk? Now only the Italians are fully aware of what kind of world-class disaster this is. To be honest, if I were an Italian, I would not be able to get away with this news. It is not that our country sealed a city, a province, or the whole country sealed the people who stayed in Wuhan at that time and kept food in their homes for several weeks. Can you think that one would last for two months? Italian style Buddhist city One is lack of mobilization ability, two is lack of organization ability, three is lack of public cohesion, four is lack of material allocation ability Other West
坐标荷兰，瑟瑟发抖中公司一年一度的意大利滑雪昨天结束，大批从意大利回来的同事开开心心的来公司上班没有一个人带口罩我说你们差点回不来了，意大利封边境了我们公司的法务一脸懵逼的看着我，怎么可能，摸出手机给我看，你看现在还可以买机票呢，往返意大利的，哎呀火车票也可以买呢公司的HR一脸懵逼的看着我，怎么可能，我们有几个同事开车去滑雪的，现在开着车吹着小曲正在过边境呢然后我给他们科普了一下什么叫做封城他们说那不叫封城，那叫【把一个城市变成了监狱】我说，这才是重点啊，这样才封得住荷兰人表示，没道理啊，凭什么啊，为什么啊，谁说的啊……我说这玩意儿要死人的，荷兰已经300多确证，死了好几个了荷兰人表示，没事儿，多洗手就好了然后给我看了这张图哦……保持一米距离就好了……那为什么我们说话的时候你们凑的那么近？现在只有意大利人充分的意识到了这是个什么样的世界级灾害说实话，我要是意大利人，知道这个消息，我也跑没办法，不是咱们国家封一个城，封一个省，是整个国家封了当时留在武汉的人，家里屯几周的粮食，能想到一封就会2个月么？意大利式佛系封城……一没动员能力，二没组织能力，三没民众凝聚力，四没物质调配能力……其他西欧人还在岁月静好呢……还刚拒绝了我这周work from home的申请麻蛋……
2、(author: Picasso approved number: 3118 release time: 2020-03-10 20:57:34 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1069794949) two pieces of news media about the closure 20 minutes apart, different comments from two countries ～
某新闻媒体相隔20分钟发的两条关于封城，两个国家不同的评价～
3、(author: Cheng Mo Morgan approved quantity: 252 release time: 2020-03-10 19:25:22 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1069610900) Italy redefined “Fengcheng”. In fact, it’s not because of the government’s incompetence that people escape in large numbers. It’s only because paparazzi are too cunning. Only because Italy’s “closed city” is really just “closed city”. They don’t “close households”. Residents still move freely in the area. In any case, compared with European countries, Italy, the weakest chicken among the imperialist countries, has performed better in this epidemic prevention. Let’s wait and see the good play of other European powers.
意大利重行定义了『封城』。其实提前走漏风声，民众大批逃离啥的，也不能怪政府无能，只怪狗仔队太狡猾，只是，意大利这个『封城』，真的只是『封城』，他们不『封户』的，居民在区域内依然自由走动。不管怎么说，相对欧洲国家，帝国主义国家中最弱鸡的意大利这次防疫表现还算好一些了，等着看欧洲其他列强的好戏吧。
4、(author: yuan susix approved quantity: 2037 release time: 2020-03-10 18:27:26 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1069495003) look at the foreign news at this moment, it’s just a history of slapping faces. It’s really a free fire. The main causes of panic in Italy are the high mortality rate and the fuzzy treatment of the local ZF. Figure: CNBC reported that the World Health Organization said last week that the mortality rate of covid-19 varies from 0.7% to as high as 4% according to the quality of the local medical system. Figure: the global mortality rate of covid-19 on WHO website is 3.4%, compared with that of seasonal influenza, which usually causes far less deaths than 1% of the infected. According to the number of new crown cases and deaths released on March 10 in Italy, the mortality rate of new crown patients in Italy is close to 5%, which is one of the highest in the world. Of course, there are also Italian media comforting the masses: there is no need to flee! “Our planes and trains don’t stop. We can get in and out in case of emergency. Bars and restaurants are limited to business hours every day. “ So, will the free and democratic Italian people believe? The more flattering the policies on both sides, the more people worry about the consequences. Other countries will suffer again. It’s not easy for the domestic epidemic to get a little better. Now we need to be more careful about foreign imports. In most other western countries, the ability of broad mobilization of people is not much better than that of Italy. It is very difficult to name the public health interests. Through administrative instructions, people are required to cooperate in anti epidemic actions. These governments can only “appeal” the public to take part in the epidemic prevention plan through moderate means, but the government lacks the national epidemic prevention
看此刻国外的新闻，就是一部啪啪啪打脸史这下真是自由过了火。较高的死亡率和当地zf模糊的处理手段，是导致意大利民众恐慌的主要原因（其实这两原因放四海皆可通）图：CNBC据CNBC报道，世界卫生组织上周曾表示，COVID-19的死亡率根据当地医疗系统的质量，从0.7％到高达4％不等。图：WHO官网目前全球COVID-19的死亡率为3.4％，相比之下，季节性流感造成的死亡人数通常远远少于受感染者的1％。而根据意大利3月10日公布的新冠病例数和死亡数而言，该国新冠患者的死亡率已接近5％，是全球范围内新冠死亡率最高的国家之一。当然，也有意大利媒体在安慰群众:根本没必要大逃亡！“我们飞机、火车不停运，有紧急事件还可出入。酒吧和餐厅每天只是限制营业时间。”那么，自由民主的意大利群众会信？越是两边讨好的政策，越让人担心这样造成的后果，其他的国家又要遭殃，好不容易国内疫情稍微好转，现在又要更加小心境外输入。大多数其他西方国家对民众的广泛动员能力也不比意大利好多少，很难以公共卫生利益为名，通过行政指令要求民众配合防疫行动。这些政府只能通过比较温和的手段““呼吁”民众参与到防疫大计中来，但政府又缺乏全民防疫的具体提议，民众除了知道自己要洗手外，甚至不知道还能做什么，西方国家的恐慌可能会比我们国内的更严重。如果疫情进一步扩大，未来引发的民怨，可能导致西方zz变动，可能在不久的未来，当各国都出现疫情爆发，政府/政客又会开始甩锅:“你看，这是全人类的挑战哦。”
5、(approved by naiahs Hou 175 published on March 10, 2020 21:52:53 https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1069920758) Western media’s traditional skills - fengdun, fast running Western journalists, stop running, wait for your people, Western media’s traditional skills - pupil, report deviation, Western media smear China every day, demons seal the city, the effect is outstanding, deeply rooted in Western media’s traditional skills - taboo, big news technology, real news producer, never just report Hamal. PV flow out of the city, causing people to panic, performing mob, reverse non-proliferation, constant disclosure, sleepless information, freedom of the press, consumer epidemic, media presence, and voice forever
西方媒体传统艺能之——风遁·跑的快西方的记者们，停下飞奔的脚步吧，等等你的人民西方媒体传统艺能之——瞳术·报道偏差西方的媒体天天抹黑中国，妖魔封城，效果卓著，深入人心西方媒体传统艺能之——禁忌·大新闻术真正的新闻制作人，从不只做报道的搬运工。封城pv流出，制造民众慌乱，演绎乌合之众，反向防扩散，爆料不断，资讯不眠，新闻自由，消费疫情，媒体不缺席，永远有声音
6、(author: vavavalentina approved quantity: 237 release time: 2020-03-09 06:31:13 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1065757624) at present, I still stay in Milan and haven’t gone to any place. Last night, I saw news that there were a lot of people to travel at Garibaldi Station in Milan, but none of the Italian colleagues and friends I knew left Milan The proportion of Chinese students who know each other staying in Milan and returning home is about half. It’s said that it’s not sure what will happen if the flights and trains are not completely closed
目前还留在米兰 没有去任何地方昨天晚上看到新闻 米兰的garibaldi车站聚集了很多要出行的人但是我身边认识的意大利同学同事朋友都没有离开米兰 身边认识的中国留学生留在米兰和回国的比例大约是一半一半据说目前航班和火车还没有全部封闭之后会发展成什么样的情况还不确定 希望会好转起来
7、(author: Yiduo pear flower pressure Begonia approved quantity: 1750 release time: 2020-03-10 11:50:45 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1068627478) Yesterday, a friend of mine took off two hours before the closure of the city. He took a Russian Airlines transit to China. When he made the transit, he had to fill in the health information form. After he landed in Shanghai, he needed to carry out on-the-spot inspection. There are two methods of inspection. One is pharyngeal swab (the inspection result will take a while to get out), the other is blood test (the result will get out immediately). After the inspection, he can continue to transfer The whole process was monitored and accompanied. The plane landed in a city in Sichuan Province. After landing, the community directly took it and arranged to enter the isolation hotel. At its own expense, 300 + RMB per day was not allowed to leave the room, express delivery, the family could only stay at a far intersection, the food was sent, the sanitation was cleaned and isolated for 14 days, depending on the situation. If it was confirmed to be positive, the subsequent expenses would be reimbursed by the state.
昨天我一个朋友在封城之前2小时起飞，乘坐俄航中转到达中国，中转时须填写健康信息表，到达上海落地以后，需要就就地检测，有两种检测方式，一种是咽拭子（检测结果需要一段时间才能出），血液检测（结果立刻就出），做完检测以后 可以继续中转 全程有人监视陪同，转机落地四川某市，落地以后社区直接接走 安排进隔离酒店，自费，每天300+ 人民币 不能出房门，快递，家人都只能停留在很远的路口，饭菜有人送，卫生有人打扫 隔离14天以后看情况，如果确诊为阳性，之后的费用国家报销。
8、(author: Jianjiang approved quantity: 383 release time: 2020-03-10 22:13:30 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1069968110) I used to say that Italy is Hubei in Europe, but now I can’t say that. Hubei is under the control of some people. If we are in trouble, we can help from all sides. Bulk Europe is one of the difficult parties. And cut off your mask. The happy people of southern Europe continue to live day by day. What about the world’s tenth largest medical capacity? I was overwhelmed by the patient. If I were in Europe, I would be very big and desperate. The years are quiet and good, and we seek more happiness from ourselves.
我原来说，意大利就是欧洲的湖北，现在看不能这么说。湖北是有人管的，我们一方有难，八方支援。散装欧洲是一方有难八方不管。还把你口罩给截了。快乐的南欧人民继续活一天算一天得过且过。说好的世界排名第十的医疗能力呢？眼看就被病人冲垮了。如果我在欧洲，会很头大很绝望。岁月静好，自求多福。
9、(author: Meng among approval number: 113 release time: 2020-03-10 23:13:02 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1070108779) the Japanese kid who came to the laboratory and sat next to me in neon study today (without mask), frowned and said to me: “you see how serious the Italian epidemic is now! All of a sudden, I think the situation in Japan is much better. “Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.” this is really entering a worse era!? “
霓虹留学中今天来了实验室坐在我旁边的日本小哥（没戴口罩），一脸皱眉地和我说：“你看现在意大利的疫情好严重哦！突然觉得日本的情况好多了哈哈哈哈哈”这还是真是进入了一个比烂的时代!?(･_･;?我就静静看你们作妖不说话………
10、(author: squat to get approval on weight loss: 177 release time: 2020-03-10 14:20:36 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1068942081) There are so many things we have seen in this epidemic. The effective control of the epidemic can not be achieved without the efforts and cooperation of the government. Just for the free three meals in the shelter for light illness, the motherland has been very arrogant. We should be happy and grateful for that sentence in the rabbit! I think I’m off topic But I can’t help sighing). Finally, I hope that those who advocate freedom can go for dessert. When their lives are gone, they will be really free.
经历这次疫情看到的东西太多了，疫情得到有效控制离不开政府的努力和配合的人民，光是对于轻症住方舱三餐免费这事儿，祖国已经很牛逼了，应了那兔里的那句，幸福并感激着！（我想我偏题了……但我忍不住感慨），最后希望崇尚自由的人走点心吧，小命没了就真自由升天了。
11、Novel coronavirus pneumonia (author: Yang Xiaoyu agrees with the quantity: 231 release time: 2020-03-10 20:47:33 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1069774059) by March 10th, the number of new crown pneumonia patients in Italy was confirmed by 9172, and the death toll was 463, and the mortality rate rose to the highest in the world. Before the outbreak of Italy: your data in China is false, the mortality rate is not so high, all blame your health system is too rubbish After the outbreak in Italy: your data in China is false, and the mortality rate is not so low. You must have lied that we can stop work for more than a month, we can close the community for more than a month, and we can use all the forces that can be mobilized to control the traffic, detect patients, and deliver materials. Can Italy? Even if they can, can they hold on for more than a month without foreign aid? Some people compare the daily new cases in Italy with the data published in Wuhan earlier stage, and find that they are highly consistent. Combined with Wuhan’s 2% mortality rate at that time, the mortality rate in Italy was twice that of Wuhan in the same period. If this trend is followed, the death rate in Italy will eventually reach 10%. It was foreseen that the Italian Prime Minister announced that he would block the severely affected areas in the north and follow the example of Wuhan at that time. As the media leaked the bill in advance, a large number of people in the North who got the news took the train to the south. In this way, the large-scale flow of people is undoubtedly spreading the epidemic in the north to the south. We can also see from the Italian media’s leakage of the city closure that why we must give the masses a buffer time to enter and leave Wuhan freely when we close the city, because panic is much more terrible than the epidemic. Italian media
截止到3月10日，意大利新冠肺炎感染患者确诊人数9172人，死亡人数463人死亡率上升至全球最高。意大利爆发之前:你们中国的数据是假的，死亡率没那么高，都怪你们卫生系统太垃圾 意大利爆发之后:你们中国的数据是假的，死亡率没那么低，一定是你们瞒报了我们可以停工一个多月，我们可以封闭社区一个多月，我们能够动用一切可以动员的力量管控交通、检测患者、配送物资，意大利能吗？就算能，他们可以在没有外援的情况下，坚持一个多月吗？有人将意大利每日新增病例，和武汉前期公布的数据相比对，发现两者高度吻合。再结合当时武汉只有百分之2的死亡率来看，此时意大利的死亡率已经比同一时期的武汉高出了一倍。若是按照这个趋势发展，最终意大利的死亡率将达到百分之10。正是预见到了这一点，意大利总理宣布要将北部疫情重灾区封锁起来，效仿武汉当时的做法。由于媒体提前泄露了这一法案，导致大量得到消息的北方民众乘坐火车去往了南方。如此一来，大面积的人员流动，无疑是在将北部的疫情扩散去了南部。从意大利媒体泄露封城令我们也能看出，为什么我们武汉封城的时候，一定要给群众一个缓冲时间，让群众自由出入，因为恐慌要比疫情可怕的多的多。意大利媒体泄露封城令，无疑是加大了恐慌。湖北有中国其他兄弟八方支援，意大利一出事欧盟其他国家没几个去支援他的，现在很明显的是欧盟其他国家打算各家自扫门前雪了。意大利只能自求多福了。
12、(author: dingtianlidi approved quantity: 495 release time: 2020-03-10 22:51:35 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1070059196) the only lesson that human beings can learn in history is that human beings cannot learn any lesson from history. I thought the situation in China had been seen all over the world. Human nature is interlinked. In Europe, as long as we learn from China’s lessons, we should tighten first, then loosen, isolate early and treat early, and the epidemic should be contained quickly. It’s not good to hire a few Chinese experts for guidance. The reason why human beings can’t learn any lessons from others is that they have the common fault of being smart. Even if we admit that other people’s experience is better, there will always be an excuse “this is not suitable for my national conditions” to prevaricate. This is the case in Europe today. During Mussolini’s period, the whole Italian nation followed the Soviet model to carry out the “four-year plan”, and national production quickly recovered from the decline of World War I. Mussolini, like Hitler, was a staunch anti Communist. However, this did not prevent him from liking Marx and Lenin, which played a model role in organizing political parties and gaining workers’ support. In terms of economy, he recuperated and developed light and heavy industries in an all-round way. In terms of agriculture, he pushed forward the reclamation of wasteland and the reform of the farmland system, which hit back at that time Lord of the land of LES. In this way, by 1925, Italy had become a new star from a poor country in southern Europe. In this context, Mussolini began to engage in dictatorship is the general trend of the people. If Mussolini died in 1925, maybe he could enjoy the treatment of crystal coffin. So I have never doubted the mobilization and unity of the Italians. Don’t think this country is as simple as noodles and football
人类在历史上能学到的唯一教训，就是人类不能从历史上学到任何教训。本来我以为中国的情况全世界都看到了。人性都是相通的，到了欧洲大家只要吸取中国的教训，先紧后松，早隔离早治疗，疫情应该能够快速被遏制。实在学不会花钱请几个中国专家来做指导也好。人类之所以不能学会他人的任何教训，是因为有自作聪明的通病。即便是承认他人的经验更好，但是总会有借口“这个不适合我的国情”来搪塞。目前的欧洲人就是这个情况。墨索里尼时期，意大利全国上下一心，仿照苏联模式搞“四年计划”，全国生产迅速从一战的凋零中恢复过来。政治上文治为主，墨索里尼跟希特勒一样是个坚定的反共产主义人士，但是这不妨碍他本人特别喜欢马克思和列宁，这两者在他组织政党，获得工人支持上面起到了模范作用；经济上休养生息，轻重工业全面发展；农业上推进垦荒，变革田地制度，打击了当时那不勒斯的大地主们。就这样，到了1925年，意大利就从南欧穷国变成了一颗新星。在此背景下，墨索里尼开始搞独裁实在是民心所向，大势所趋（狗头）。要是1925年墨索里尼就去世了，搞不好他能享受水晶棺待遇。所以我从未怀疑过意大利人的动员能力和团结性。不要以为这个国家只有面条跟足球那么简单。古罗马帝国的荣耀是意大利人心里不灭的火焰。当年学习苏联能实现腾飞。只要现在学习中国，我相信他们能做得更好。意大利加油！
13、(author: Ranger approved quantity: 83, published time: 2020-03-10, 19:49:24, link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1069657218) you think you have seen this episode, but people’s understanding of feudalism is not the same
你以为这集你看过，然而人类对封城封国的理解并不相通
14、(author: Dasheng reading approval quantity: 81 release time: 2020-03-10 19:52:41 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1069663122) this is a big shuffle! If the disaster is replaced by an earthquake, a tsunami, a small meteorite hitting the earth and a zombie rampant, other countries, except China, the United States and Russia, will still have to kneel! Europeans are blinded by the short-term peace and take it for granted that it is stable! Freedom is a luxury, obviously not affordable in Europe. Excessive consumption, the ultimate only insolvency, pay the price. This epidemic is certainly more serious in Europe than in Japan and South Korea. Korea is a peninsula country, Japan is an island country. And the railway and road networks crisscross between European borders. Italians run around without masks. This is to kill the rhythm of the whole Europe! Let’s talk about xiafeng! Whether Italy is sealed or not, the final result is miserable! Because this kind of loose democratic system does not have the condition to seal the city! In the face of great natural and man-made disasters, only the end!
这是一次大洗牌！如果这次灾难换成地震海啸、小型陨石撞地球、丧尸横行，除了中美俄，其他国家照样得跪！欧洲人被短期的和平蒙蔽了双眼，认为平稳是一种理所当然！自由是一件奢侈品，很显然欧洲人消费不起。过度消费，最终只能资不抵债，付出代价。这次疫情，欧洲肯定比日韩更加严重。韩国是半岛国家，日本是岛国。而欧洲国界之间铁路、公路网纵横交错，意大利人不带口罩还乱跑，这是想搞死全欧洲的节奏！再说下封城！意大利不管封与不封，最后结果都很惨！因为这种松散的民主体制不具备封城的条件！遇见大的天灾人祸，只有完蛋！
15、(author: Liu Chang approved quantity: 351 release time: 2020-03-10 13:13:51 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1068806198) Before when Wuhan was closed, some people said it was “sudden”. I argued at that time that if you are a citizen of Wuhan and the government issued a closure notice, the first scene is: Crazy flight and shopping malls competing for the closure notice. In fact, this kind of thing is more likely to cause a wide range of panic and flight, and more difficult to control. The actual situation is that the overall medical resources of Wuhan have been run on, the external provinces and cities have been severely banned, and the loss of both closed and unclosed cities is heavy. But at least it’s better to seal the city than not to seal it. Since it’s sealed, it’s better to not give a notice than to give a notice. The reality is that it’s not a matter of emotional acceptance, it’s a matter of emotional acceptance. The individual may have the myth of turning the train, but the state does not hesitate to choose the side with more people to protect.
之前武汉封城的时候有人说太“突然”了我当时就争论过如果你是武汉市民，政府发布了一个封城预告那么第一时间出现的景象是：疯狂外逃、商场争抢预告封城这种事其实更容易引起大范围的恐慌与外逃，更加难以控制。实际情况是武汉整体医疗资源被挤兑，外部省市封禁严重，封城与不封城损失都是惨重的。但是起码封城从总体来说是比不封城要好，既然封城，那么不预告比预告要好。现实就这样，不是你感情上接受不接的问题，而是到你头上你受不受得住的问题。个人可能有火车扳道的迷思，但是国家在选择保全人多的那一方时是毫不犹豫的。
16、(author: He Nan approved quantity: 281 release time: 2020-03-10 18:22:54 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1069486961) we only want to ban flights from Italy, Japan, South Korea, the United States, Iran to China, other international flights, as long as there are people with recent travel history of overseas epidemic areas, repatriate by original plane. My family has been closed for two months. I have to bear to eat roast duck every day, not to let foreigners and foreigners come to China as a shelter at this time. Thank goodness. Good news.
只求赶紧禁航意大利，日本，韩国，美国，伊朗飞往中国的航班，其他国际航班，只要有载有近期境外疫区旅行史的人，通通原机遣返。爷在家已经闭关俩月了，每天想吃烤鸭子都得忍着，不是为了让洋人和二洋人们这时候来中国当避难所的。谢天谢地，算个好消息。
17、(author: Zhou Yang approved quantity: 91 release time: 2020-03-10 17:59:02 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1069440156) the follow-up development of Italy can let us see the follow-up situation 37 days ago if Hubei measures are not strict. How do you see Italy’s national blockade against the epidemic on March 9? What are the impacts? -Zhou Yang’s answer - Zhihu https://www.zhihu.com/question/378177467/answer/1068438946
这个意大利的后续发展状况可以让我们见识下37天前倘若湖北措施不严的后续情况。如何看待 3 月 9 日意大利为抗击疫情进行全国封锁？会产生哪些影响？ - 周阳的回答 - 知乎 https://www.zhihu.com/question/378177467/answer/1068438946
18、(author: number of anonymous users: 619 release time: 2020-03-10 12:04:57 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1068658710) some people mock that this is an “Italian style city closure”. However, they have not thought about why Italy made such a “city closure” in Hubei during the period of such a “city closure” in China, how much manpower and material resources have been devoted to protect the local from a large-scale humanitarian crisis? Government aid, donations from people and enterprises, efforts of countless volunteers, more than 40000 doctors and nurses, in this way, Weibo can still see some local problems, but at least the big problem doesn’t appear, which means that although so many people in Hubei don’t come out, they have to eat and live. Hubei has aid from dozens of provinces outside. Who does Italy expect? Germany began not to export masks. It is unrealistic to expect Italy to seal Wuhan. Due to the system, media and other reasons, the early problems in Wuhan almost repeat in European countries. Due to the “institutional advantages” of western countries, it may be only a matter of time before the epidemic goes out of control in Europe
有人嘲讽这是”意大利式的封城”，然而他们却没想过为什么意大利要这么封湖北”封城”期间全国出了多少人力物力去保障当地不出现大规模人道主义危机？政府援助，民众和企业捐款，无数志愿者的努力，超过4万医护就这样微博知乎上还是不断能看到一些当地出现的问题，不过至少大问题没有出现封城意味着里面那么多人虽然不出来但是要吃饭，要生活，湖北有外面几十个省的援助，意大利指望谁？德国都开始不出口口罩了期望意大利封成武汉那样是不现实的，由于制度，媒体等原因，武汉早期出现的问题几乎在欧洲各国重演ing……由于西方国家的”制度优势”，疫情在欧洲失控恐怕只是时间问题
19、(author: caixin.com.cn approved quantity: 729 release time: 2020-03-10 17:41:45 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1069402827) after the closure scope was expanded to the whole country, international traffic in Italy was still unimpeded, and the implementation of the closure order was questioned. Italian Prime Minister konte announced on the evening of March 9 local time that in response to the escalation of the epidemic, Italy will start to implement a nationwide ban on City closures from March 10. This means that the measures announced on March 8 will be further extended to the whole country of Italy, targeting only 14 provinces in the north central part and covering the “red” warning area of 16 million people. These Measures stipulate that all residents shall not enter or leave the city at will unless they can prove that they have special reasons for work, emergency or medical conditions. If you want to enter or leave the city, you must submit a personal statement to the police guarding the traffic facilities. If you are later found that the statement is not true, you will be sentenced to three months’ imprisonment. Up to now, Italy’s domestic urban blockade emergency order has not affected Italy’s international traffic; the European countries bordering Italy, such as France, Switzerland, Austria, Slovenia, have not announced the closure of the border with Italy. According to the local, the Italian media, the railway, road and air transportation in the blocked area are still operating normally after the central government issued the order to block some cities in northern Italy on March 8. Airlines, including easyJet, Ryanair and Ba, are still serving airports in Milan and Venice in the blockade area. Airlines in Italy have cut routes in recent weeks, said Italian national airline Alitalia,
封城范围扩大至全国后，意大利的国际交通往来仍然畅通无阻，封锁令的落实情况备受质疑。意大利总理孔特当地时间3月9日晚间宣布，为应对疫情升级，意大利将从3月10日开始在全国范围内实行封城禁令。这意味着，在3月8日宣布的，只针对中北部14个省、覆盖1600万人口“红色”警戒区域的各城市封锁措施，将进一步扩大到意大利全国。这些措施规定：除非能证明个人拥有工作、紧急情况或医疗状况方面的特殊理由，否则所有居民不得随意进出城市。欲出入城市者，须向把守交通设施的警方提交个人声明，若事后被查出声明内容不属实的，将被处以3个月的监禁。截至目前为止，意大利国内的城市封锁紧急命令，尚未影响意大利的国际交通往来；与其接壤的法国、瑞士、奥地利、斯洛文尼亚等欧洲各国，也未宣布对意大利关闭边界。据意大利媒体The Local报道，中央政府在3月8日封锁意大利北部部分城市的命令发出后，被封锁地区的铁路、公路和航空运输仍旧在照常运行。包括EasyJet、Ryanair、英航等在内的航空公司仍在为处于封锁区内的米兰和威尼斯的机场提供服务。意大利境内的航空公司已经在最近几周内削减了航线，意大利的国家航空公司意大利航空表示，该公司的航班将停止从米兰的马尔彭萨机场起飞。但在利纳特机场仍将继续运营国内航班。当地一些民众对紧急令被落实的情况存疑。21岁的快递员乔努兹·阿格隆（Jonuzi Agron）在接受意大利媒体The Local采访时称，“我发现，人们仍然可以自由进出红色区域，光从字面上设置一个红色区域毫无意义。我可以从摩德纳去博洛尼亚，没有人管控，我有可能会感染任何人。”民众为什么要离开呢？较高的新冠死亡率和紧张的医疗资源或能提供解释。世界卫生组织（WHO）在3月3日的发布会上表示，新冠肺炎的全球死亡率已经达到3.4%。且这一数字一直在不断更新变化中。而就意大利3月10日公布的新冠病例数和死亡数而言，该国新冠患者的死亡率已接近5％，是全球范围内新冠死亡率最高的国家之一。意大利高等卫生研究院在于3月5日发布的一份报告中称，其对105名已去世的意大利新冠患者进行的数据分析结果显示，他们平均年龄81岁，大多是男性。三分之二的死亡患者有三种或三种以上的既往疾病。意大利民防部部长、新冠病毒应急委员会专员安杰洛·博雷利在3月5日召开的发布会上介绍，截至3月5日，意大利境内重症患者的比例约10%，新冠去世患者的年龄多在66岁至94岁之间，且大多数人去世前都患有其他疾病。欧盟统计数据显示，意大利是欧洲人口年龄最高的国家，年轻人的比例最低，65岁以上的人口比例（截至2018年为22.6％）居欧盟国家首位。欧盟的人口中位年龄为42.8岁，而意大利的人口中位年龄为45.9岁，在欧洲国家中，老龄化程度仅次于德国。另外，目前意大利抗疫所需的医疗资源短缺情况堪称严峻。英国《独立报》日前刊登了米兰大学的三位重症监护专家寄给欧洲重症监护医学学会的呼吁信。这三名意大利专家在信中称，意大利所有的新冠病毒感染者中，有多达10％的人需要重症监护，但当地医院现在已经不堪重负。意大利医院内有大量的重症监护患者，他们几乎全部因为新冠病毒引起的严重肺衰竭而住院，需要借助呼吸机维持呼吸。他们在信中提醒，欧洲各地的医院需要为新冠入院患者人数激增做准备，尽快扩容ICU。要做好在所有医院都为新冠患者设置ICU病房的准备。另外，医院必须配备保护员工的设备，并对员工进行医疗培训，以确保他们正确使用这些防护设备。伦巴第重症监护危机部门的负责人安东尼奥·佩森蒂（Antonio Pesenti）在接受意大利晚邮报（Corriere Della Sera）采访时称，他所在的地区的医疗体系是意大利境内最好的，但现在仍旧“处于崩溃的边缘”，医院被迫在走廊上增设床位，对病人进行重症监护。另外，佩森蒂（Pesenti）还预测，在未来不到三周的时间内，伦巴第地区将有大约18000人住院，其中大约3000人可能需要重症监护，这是该地区现有医疗能力所能承受的10倍。他说：“如果民众意识不到待在家中的重要性，将会出现灾难性的局面。”意大利北部莱科省的重症监护医生朱塞佩·纳蒂诺（Giuseppe Nattino）在另一封单独发送的信件中提醒，并非只有老年人才会患病，在意大利，新冠患者的年龄在46岁到83岁之间，其中只有少数人患有严重的基础疾病。如果年轻病人和年长病人都需要住进ICU，那么在医院资源短缺的时候，需要作出艰难抉择。伦敦一家大型医院的高级顾问在接受《独立报》采访时称，这些信件所反映的事实令人担忧。他指出，欧洲的防疫工作将会非常艰难，其中医护人员短缺是特别让人忧心的问题。他分析说，当ICU人满为患，护士人手出现短缺时，麻醉师也必须承担照顾病人的工作，但这样的话，需要进行其他手术的非新冠患者将面临风险，甚至会出现很多非必要的死亡；另外，麻醉师们面临更大的感染新冠病毒的风险，如何保证他们的健康，也是一个重要挑战。如果医院出现感染现象，局面将不可收拾。如果有三分之一的医护人员被隔离，那么医院将会停摆。
20、(author: sofacile approval quantity: 19 release time: 2020-03-11 09:04:43 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1070592150) alas, sigh ~ you will never wake up the Italian who is still sleeping! The seriousness of the matter, you see very light at the beginning, two words “floating clouds”! Italians want freedom! No way. The Italian government has poor control ability. If you pay attention to it at the beginning, bars and other crowded places will be closed. People wear masks. Is there any discrimination against Chinese people wearing masks? Is it really unable to make complaints about it? Secondly, the Italian media leak ahead of time may be a cover? In order to attract the world’s attention, it’s the time when Sina Weibo - Sina Finance and economics get up in the morning to intercept the pictures on the hot search list in Italy: it’s only at this time that they gradually realize the serious nature of things. The event of Italian MPs wearing masks has been publicized more in China than in Italy, and a small part of Italians have been spread. No mask! Italian for freedom??? Count how many people in the picture really wear masks??? The great escape? The end of the world? Not so. Where there are many people, the greater the chance of spreading infection, do not stay at home, ready to leave? No sense of prevention. What about mask awareness? Where did it go? You know to leave??? Wake up!!! Faced with these Si, but not wearing a mask of Italians (and other not wearing masks) unable to make complaints about!!! Why do you know how to leave??? Perché？？？ This time, when we exchanged Chinese medical aid for Italy, we all woke up, put on masks, protect ourselves and respect others. At this time, the number of infections in Italy is still rising. HTTPS://
哎，唏嘘一声叹气你永远叫不醒还在睡觉的意大利人！事情的严重性，大家一开始看的很清淡，两字“浮云”！意大利人要自由！没办法，意大利政府管控能力差。如果在一开始的时候，就重视起来，酒吧这类人群密集的场所停业。市民戴好口罩。居然还有歧视戴口罩的中国人？真的是无力吐槽，叫不醒你有办法么？其次，这次的提前意大利媒体泄露，或许是个幌子？为了吸引全球目光，每天一早起来就是意大利上热搜榜图片截取：新浪微博 - 新浪财经都这个时候，才渐渐意思到事情的严重性质。意大利议员戴口罩事件这件事在国内宣传力度比意大利还大，意大利人小部分被传开。就是不戴口罩！就是要自由的意大利人？？？数数图片上有多少人真的做到戴口罩？？？大逃亡？世界末日?不至于这样吧。人多的地方，传播感染几率越大，不好好待家里，准备离开？一点防范意思都没有，口罩意识呢？哪去了？就知道离开？？？醒醒啊！！！面对这些怕si，却不戴口罩的意大利人（还有其他不戴口罩的）无力吐槽！！！为什么懂得离开？？？Perché？？？这次换中国援助医疗物资给意大利，都醒醒，戴上口罩，保护自己，也是对别人的尊重。这个时候，意大利的感染人数还在不断上升，https://statistichecoronavirus.it/coronavirus-italia/?from=timeline&isappinstalled=0只要有一人不注意，轻视了这次疫情的严重性，后果就会很严重。如果意大利人有看到就好了，主动戴上口罩。防止空气的传播。少去人群密集的地方！不要聚集酒吧，咖啡吧等场所。停业休整几天也好，这样对经济损失严重，但是早一天全球结束不好么？非要这样子？睡的差不多？就该醒来。嘿！麻烦把你的同桌叫醒一下！别睡了！！！全员提高意识的严重性质，提倡戴口罩的必要性，不能任性不管，意大利官员就应该第一做好榜样，这样人民群众才会去做啊！！！老大不醒，底下的人更叫不醒！！！有时候，想想意大利人的做法都觉得好笑图片截取：新浪微博 - 人民日报终于开始在小规模下宣传：尽量留在家中，出门请戴口罩
21、(author: Mr. halal approved quantity: 47 release time: 2020-03-11 01:39:39 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1070351443) international well-known double standard
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22、(author: Zhang San approved quantity: 106 release time: 2020-03-10 19:10:32 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1069581469) I have a bold conspiracy theory: the government deliberately let some people escape, reduce the pressure of local prevention and control, and avoid devastating disasters. 1. For Italy, it’s immoral to let the surrounding areas share the harm, but it’s really helpless. 2. This part of people can escape smoothly without being blocked by the surrounding customs, perhaps because there is communication between the surrounding areas and the high-level Italian. 3. This action can temporarily dilute the virus density and win some time for epidemic prevention and control. In the long run, it may not be a bad thing. 4. But there is a big betting element in this move, which is to ensure that the allocated damage can be digested by the surrounding areas. Otherwise, the consequences are unimaginable. 5. The key point of whether this hypothesis can satisfy people is the possibility that the high-level of surrounding areas will cooperate with the high-level of Italy. On this point, if Italy and its surrounding areas are regarded as a “European anti epidemic united front”, it is more likely. Because if the surrounding areas are only willing to protect themselves and do not help, once the Italian disaster breaks out completely, the surrounding areas will be affected, not to mention the economic impact. Only when a large number of Italian zombie refugees rush over, the consequences may be more serious. 6. I am optimistic about this personally. If we can play a game of chess in Europe, the effect of joint prevention and control should be better than that of each other.
我有一个大胆的阴谋论：意政府故意放风出去，让一部分人出逃，减轻本地防控压力，避免发生毁灭性灾难。1.对于意大利，让周边地区分摊伤害不道德，但是也实属无奈。2.这一部分人能够顺利出逃而没有被周边关防阻拦，或许是因为周边地区与意大利高层之间是有沟通的。3.此举可以暂时稀释病毒密度，为疫情防控争取了一点时间，长远看来未必是件坏事。4.但是此举有很大赌的成分，即要保证分摊出去的伤害可以被周边消化。否则，后果不堪设想。5.这个假设是否能服人的关键点在于周边地区高层会配合意大利高层的可能性。关于这一点，如果把意大利和其周边地区作为一个“欧洲抗疫统一战线”，其可能性就比较大了，因为如果周边地区只愿自保而不帮忙，意大利灾难一旦彻底爆发，周边地区必然被殃及，经济等影响不说，只说到时候大批意大利僵尸难民冲过来，后果可能更严重。6.我个人对此持乐观态度，如果真的能做到欧洲一盘棋，联合防控的效果应该是比各自为战要好。
23、(author: Hu aishui approved quantity: 15 release time: 2020-03-11 07:51:59 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1070499438) I hope that the situation in Italy can be taken as a warning to all countries outside China. After missing the window period that China has robbed the world, the new coronavirus has become a challenge to all human beings. Their passive epidemic prevention is totally to help tyranny. All countries, regardless of the size of the epidemic situation, should carry out comprehensive copying from China’s prevention and control means, in the process of copying If it is found that it is not suitable for the country, revise it again Of course, due to the physical problems of foreign countries, it’s hard for them to be so effective in China, but at least they can reduce the infectivity of the new coronavirus and slow down the growth rate of infection. The data of three times in five days given by academician Zhong Nanshan is really terrible, which means that there may be tens of millions overseas in one month without prevention and control Of course, due to the insufficient use of domestic masks and other protective equipment, China’s material support to foreign countries is bound to be limited, which can only be exported without affecting the normal operation of the country. In order to end the new crown epidemic as soon as possible, we hope that all countries will not grudge their small money and try to buy back enough masks from large countries producing protective materials. We really have no money to provide them Special loans. Otherwise, it’s negotiable to rent a port or something with a mask. It’s not looting. We need to eat. Overseas countries can also rely on their own efforts. If there is no scarf for masks, there will always be no cloth for scarves. If there is a transparent plastic that can block the head in front of the face, as long as it is not aerosol transmission that dominates, the top thing in front of the head is always useful.
希望意大利的情况能够让境外各国引以为戒，不要再掩耳盗铃了，在错过了中国给世界抢出来的窗口期之后，新冠病毒已经成为了全人类的挑战，他们的消极防疫完全是助纣为虐，所有国家，不论疫情大小，都应该从中国的防控手段中进行全面照抄，在照抄的过程中发现不适合本国的再进行修订……当然由于境外各国的体质问题，他们很难做到我国这么有效，但是起码能够将新冠病毒的传染力降下来，减缓感染增速，钟南山院士给出的五天三倍这个数据实在太可怕了，意味着不进行防控一个月后境外可能上千万……当然，由于境内口罩等防护用品现在都不至够用，我国对境外的物资支援必然是有限的，在不影响本国正常运转的前提下才能出口，为了早日结束新冠疫情，希望各国不要吝惜手里的小钱钱，想方设法从防护物资生产大国买回足够的口罩等，实在没钱我国可以提供专项贷款嘛，要不然用口罩租借个港口什么的也是可以商量的，这不是趁火打劫，我们也要吃饭的嘛。境外各国也可以自己动手自力更生，口罩没有围巾总有吧，围巾没有总能找到块布吧，在脸前面找个能挡住的脑袋的透明塑料总有吧，只要不是气溶胶传播占大头，脑袋前面顶个东西总是有用的。
24、(author: Dashu approved quantity: 62 release time: 2020-03-10 22:59:53 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1070079126) leader: Xiao Li, release the news, and seal the country tomorrow. Xiao Li: what do people do when they know they’ve run away? Leader: anyway, Italy can’t cure so many patients. Give some to other countries.
领导：小李，把消息放出去，明天封国。小李：人们知道了都跑了怎么办？领导：反正意大利也治不了这么多病人，分一些给其他国家。
25、(author: a Zhen approved quantity: 287 release time: 2020-03-10 18:51:57 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1069544130) can’t run any more… The key to starting the line-up is not wearing masks, and Italians can’t buy masks. Our landlord, the Italian old man, also asked us if we had any extra masks. We happily refused him. Did you see the stick in my arms? Https://www.zhihu.com/video/1220783047425273856 dare to go out without a stick? Italians are as good as nothing. They didn’t eat because of the epidemic, but because they heard that they were going to seal the city. They didn’t care. I feel the time is quiet…
已经跑不了了。。。开始排队囤货关键是不戴口罩，意大利人也买不到口罩。我们房东意大利老头还问我们有没有多余的口罩，我们开心的回绝了他。有没有看到我怀里的棍子？https://www.zhihu.com/video/1220783047425273856不带棍子敢出门？意大利人都和没事一样。屯吃的不是因为疫情，是因为他们听说要封城。当时他们也不关心。感觉岁月静好。。。
26、(author: Feng Feng approved quantity: 21 release time: 2020-03-11 09:11:08 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1070603327) China wrote a correct answer Z ＾ 2 on the test paper, and Italians thought it was 2 ＾ 2 at a glance, and then wrote a 4 by themselves. Most other countries didn’t even know there was an exam today.
中国在考卷上写了一个正确答案z＾2，意大利人瞟了一眼以为是2＾2，然后自作聪明写了一个4上去。其他国家大部分甚至不知道今天有考试。
27、(author: Gao Qun approved quantity: 391 release time: 2020-03-10 17:13:35 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1069339763) it’s inevitable to escape. So it’s good for the Italian government to escape. Many people don’t know the seriousness of the situation. Fengcheng in Wuhan is quick and accurate, but there are many people who have fled. Zhejiang received a car of students. The excuse is to rush back to school and escape from Wuhan at the last moment of the night before Fengcheng. In fact, there are two patients in the car. They hide in the Li cabin when they meet the examination, until some students in the car in Zhejiang tell the counselor about the situation. In fact, all the students in the car knew about the two infected students, but they agreed to escape together, just to escape to other provinces, even if they were infected, they could get treatment. At the end of the day, when you seal the city, it’s easy for people in the city to realize that things are out of control - otherwise, you don’t need to use the extreme way of blocking the whole city to control the deterioration of things. Once the city is closed, the supply of resources in the city will inevitably encounter problems in a short period of time, especially the most critical medical resources. If we think about it a little, we can quickly conclude that at least in a short period of time, we will not be able to meet the needs effectively. In fact, even the Leihuo Shenshan hospital and fangcang hospital, which we are proud of, and the foreign enemy’s medical team, have spent a lot of time before and after In the process, how many people are trapped in the collapsed medical system in Wuhan? At that time, the famous picture of patients standing in front of fever clinic was not completely criticized? So if you want to escape, you need to escape. It’s a normal mental state. If you don’t escape, it’s not normal. So the way of closing the city is actually extreme
有逃离是必然的，就这么点人逃离已经算是意大利政府洗脑洗的好，很多老百姓还不清楚事态的严重性。武汉封城动手快准狠，但各种逃离的也不少——浙江这边就接过一车学生，借口是赶回学校上课，在封城前夜最后一刻逃出武汉，车里其实里面混着两个病患，一路遇到检查就躲行李舱，直到进入浙江境内车里有学生心里不安把情况告诉辅导员以后事情才曝光。实际上当时车上学生都知道这两个感染同学，但都同意一起逃出来，就是为了逃到其他省份，哪怕被感染了也能得到治疗。说到底，当你施行封城的那一刻起，对于城内人来说，都很容易意识到事态已经失去控制——否则根本无需动用封锁一整座城这种极端方式控制事态恶化。而一旦封城以后，城内的各项资源供应必然会在短时间内出现问题，尤其是最关键的医疗资源，只要稍微思考下就能很快得出，至少在短时间内是无法有效满足需求的——实际上，即使我们引以为豪的雷火神山和方舱医院以及外敌援鄂医疗团队，前后也花了不少时间，而在这过程中，多少人受困于武汉崩溃的医疗系统？当时那张著名的发热门诊前站满患者的照片，不是已经被批判的体无完肤了么？所以想逃，要逃，是很正常的心理状态，不逃才是不正常的。因此封城这种手段，其实极端考验政府的执行力以及后续的维持能力——如何第一时间用强力手段压制恐慌情绪乃至反抗行为，又如何在后续的封锁中尽快保证资源的供给让恐慌停止进一步蔓延和升级，这都是极端考验政府能力的。而意大利政府，我不相信他有这些能力。所以意大利的封城乃至封国，我不认为会有一个好结果。
28、(author: Hao liangzai approved today: 293 release time: 2020-03-10 16:56:20 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1069299560) Wuhan learned that the people who left the city overnight, even if they were diagnosed, were well maintained in key hospitals in other provinces and cities. Even if sentenced, life is saved. Morally and legally, these people deserve condemnation and punishment, but in the sense of survival, they live. But Italy is different from our national conditions, where can we run? A lot of people on the train who don’t wear masks may be killed, but the risk increases instead.
武汉得知封城连夜离开的人，就算确诊，也在其他省市重点医院好好养着。就算判刑，命也保住了。道德和法律上，这些人该受到谴责和惩罚，但从生存意义上来说，他们活着。不过意大利与我们国情不同，跑又能跑到哪里去，火车上一堆不戴口罩的人，戴口罩说不定被打死，风险反而增加。
29、(the author: Jiwei of Nuo city agrees with the quantity: 15, published on March 11, 2020, 04:07:18, link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1070427420) coordinate Britain, and talk about the views on Italy’s feudalism. Italy was finally sealed, completely sealed, even the country. But I’m sorry that even if I did, it would be useless. It’s not that late sealing doesn’t work, it’s that early sealing doesn’t work. I know someone must want to hate me when they see it here. Why is it useless when the country is sealed? Isn’t Wuhan under control soon after its closure? You’re right, but you’re missing one thing: people are free to move from country to country in Europe. If today is Italy, France, Germany, Spain, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom At the same time, it may have effect without considering the economic factors. However, if Italy is only one country, it won’t work at all. Think about it. How long will Italy last? Once the economic activities stop on a large scale, with the current economic situation in Italy, it is only a matter of time before the social collapse. At that time, Italy will have to stop its colonization. At this time, a large number of virus carriers from other surrounding European countries will enter and leave Italy freely. The situation that Italy has just eased will become serious again. Now, Italy is desperate. It can’t get a response from other countries in the European Union. The economic situation of the country is even worse. The new coronavirus can’t be ignored. It can only make the best policy of sealing the country. It can be said that it knows that it can’t do it. The only way out for European countries now is to work together to fight the epidemic and advance and retreat together. If we are still as scattered as we are now, it will be a matter of time before we fall completely.
坐标英国，谈谈对意大利封国的看法。意大利最终还是封了，封得很彻底，连国家都封了。但很遗憾，即使这样做了恐怕也没什么用。不是说封晚了没用，而是封早封晚都没什么用。我知道有人看到这里肯定想要怼我，国家都封了怎么会没用？武汉封城了以后不是不久后就控制住了吗？你说的没错，但是你忽略了一点：欧洲国与国之间人口是自由流动的。今天如果是意大利，法国，德国，西班牙，荷兰，英国…同时封国，不考虑经济因素，或许会有效果，然而如果单靠意大利一国封国，根本起不到作用。你想想，意大利封国能撑几天？封国这种事不可能长期坚持下去，经济活动一旦大规模停止，以意大利现有的经济状况，社会崩溃只是个时间问题。到那时意大利一定会迫不得已停止封国，而这时候周边其它的欧洲国家又有大量的病毒携带者自由出入意大利，意大利刚缓和的情况又会变得严重起来。意大利现在非常绝望，向欧盟其它国家求助得不到回应，国家经济情况雪上加霜，新冠病毒又不能不管，只能出了封国的下策，可以说是明知不可为而为之。欧洲各国现在唯一的出路就是国家间协作抗疫，共同进退。如果还像现在这样一盘散沙，各自为战，彻底沦陷是迟早的事。
30、(author: big grid approval number: 357 release time: 2020-03-10 17:05:54 link address: https://www.zhihu.com/question/377806729/answer/1069322153) “the only lesson that human beings learn from history is that human beings can’t learn any lessons from history”. Even if the time is only 47 days
“人类从历史中,学到的唯一教训,就是人类无法从历史中学到任何教训”.即使时间只过了47天…